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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2014, 09:37:01 AM »
Denis, once I get the brit stuff completed, My next build is a 650 similar to yours.  I cant wait to see yours and chat about it.  Did you make a jig for your hardtail? Or did you free hand it?
I used a jig.  I made it much better this time so that I could re-use it on other xs650s since the Nezumi Boyz (previously referred to as the Chopper Boyz) all seem to have their hands on xs650s.  On page one of this thread there are some photos of the jig I used.

Here are a couple of  photos of my nephew, Emery working on his current XS650.  Check out the swoopy curves.  I now have a tubing roller in my arsenal as well as my JD Squared tubing bender.





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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2014, 11:40:33 AM »
Looks like when the time comes, I may have to come out for a weekend build:)  do some frame work and drink some beers!
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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2014, 02:05:22 PM »
Looks like when the time comes, I may have to come out for a weekend build:)  do some frame work and drink some beers!
That's what been going on for the last few weeks.  Once they start riding I'll be put out to pasture again.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2014, 12:01:42 AM »
I have not posted pics in awhile despite actually having done a lot of work. 

The front brake lines are put together from  Russell (not our Russell) bits.  They are sold by quite a few aftermarket vendors.  Their standard is AN3.  The lines and fittings all just fit together so there are lots of possibilities.   I made this bracket to hold my manifold (1 into 2) and headlight.  I've rounded it off since the fitment.



And on the bike.



The rear brake was very finicky, but works like a charm.  What is hard to see is the top of the lever attached to the brake switch (not the brake pedal) is actually 2 pieces screwed together.  It had to be built this way, because if I simply welded it, I would have to remove the entire battery box to pull it out  ...  not that I plan on doing that often.

The brake lever is all 5/8th rod; bent cut and welded.  Only the female part at one end and the stock pedal at the other are from the original.  Foot pegs are Harley passenger pegs.



I moved onto the engine.  XS650s have an antiquated charging system.  They use an electromagnet alternator.  The voltage is regulated by how much current goes to the electromagnet.  More current to the electromaget  makes it  stronger which then produces more current in the main system.  Modern 3 phase alternators use fixed magnets where the alternator just pumps out as much current as it can, and the (easily identified) finned regulator/rectifier dumps the excess current as heat.  Since modern reg/rectifiers have worked well for 30 years, it was about time that the aftermarket came up with a retrofit for the XS650.  I installed one.  It should look familiar 'cause your bike probably has something like this.



I went to assemble the motor.  Every part was measured months ago.  I went to intall the rings.  I had assumed the top two were equal thickness, and the grooves were equal sizes.  Wrong.  I put the small one in the slightly bigger groove, and tried to push what turned out to be a slightly thicker one in a slightly narrower groove.  I broke the ring and scored up the grooves in the process.  A panic on-line order has pistons and rings coming by next week.  Next time I'll install the rings on the pistons before I put them on the rods.  And I'll take some more time and caution.  This error cost me about $160.



Since the engine is shelved for at least a week, I started the finish welding on the frame.   Some things were too hard to get at during the mock up so they need to be welded in now.  I hope thats a bad photo and not welding smoke in the picture.



Stuntman Fubar has painted my tank and fender (semi gloss black), and Cam McLoad has them for pinstriping.  Motor mounts and odds 'n sods are getting powder coated, but the frame will just be spray bombed.  I like bondo, cheap high build primer, and I never want to commit to a first build.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2014, 11:15:45 PM »
I picked up my parts from the powder coaters.  Beautiful job by RCJ.  I also got my pistons and rings from XS650Direct so the weekend will be devoted to getting the frame finished.  I'll try to post some updated pictures if I make progress this weekend.

I won't start the countdown to the Show 'n Shine until June.  For those who followed the near miss with my GS650 mono shock conversion cafe racer a couple of years ago,  I hope to create as much drama, but have a happy ending ... and not fall asleep during the Show 'n Shine.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2014, 01:00:33 AM »
There was lots of sun ... too much, and wind last weekend, so I got my frame painted:



On Tuesday (Club Night) I arrived late for the  meeting.  Charlie and Russell were still in the parking lot and agreed to come over and help lift the engine into the frame.  Ted offered his comments on my new, state of the art, charging and ignition systems as well as comments on my abbreviated wiring diagram.



Later, I was doing some final assembly; the oil feed tube. The top is held in place with banjo bolts.  I have a new, reasonable quality torqure wrench whcih I was using.  The new, aftermarket, bango bolt sheered before the  torque spec .. like way before.



I was able to back it out with an Easy Out just held between my fingers.  I cleaned up the old ones and used them instead.

I purchased several specialized XS650 parts from XS650Direct which were defective; largely for the same reason.  They all had cheap plated type finish, which interfere with the smooth operation of the threads.   The Banjo bolts were just plain too soft steel.  I intend to make the seller aware of these crappy parts ... and seek a refund.

Lots to do before the Show"Shine, and I will not pull an all nighter.  If I make it I make it.   If I don't I don"t.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2014, 12:36:15 AM »
I want to test my starter with an external battery.  I've tested the relay solenoid and it clicks nicely. 

I have the clutch out right now.  The top end is buttoned up but the spark plugs are out.  The rear wheel and chain are not on yet.  I am thinking a quick touch with jumper cables would confirm whether my starter motor will work or not.

Am I overlooking a potential disaster?

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2014, 01:30:03 AM »
Candice was out at my work today and said she thought you could get it all back together in time. Good to know you have someone at home rooting for you!

Can't wait to see it all together (show and shine or not)

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2014, 01:19:54 PM »
Did I mention my wife was away again?  It's not often I get to use the kitchen sink for my projects.



Turned out shiny.



Its much easier to wire stuff like this with the wheel and fender off. 



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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2014, 01:25:04 PM »
Its 1:30 Saturday afternoon.  Still lots to do. 



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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2014, 02:28:27 PM »
Looked great at the show and shine.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2014, 01:03:42 PM »
I made my goal ... sort of.  The Smithers XS650 Bobber had to be carried down in the back of my truck.  It looks pretty, but doesn't run yet.





At 12:30 Saturday night, I put down my tools, cracked a beer and was bemoaning there was no way I would even be able to roll it to the show.  My wife arrived about the same time having driven up from Vancouver.  She saw I was bummed and said, "I'm too wound up from driving and won't be able to sleep right away anyways.  I'll change into my work clothes and lets tart it up for the show."  She polished stuff and helped me assembled enough so it looked like a finished motorcyle.  We finishd around 4:00 Sunday a.m.

I need to finish the wiring, plumb the gas tank, and install the clutch.  Then there will be the inevitable bugs to work out.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2014, 11:02:18 AM »
Close but no cigar ... yet.

Wiring is done and works great. 

Mike Rommel came by just when I needed a second set of hands for timing the ignition.  Its bang on.

Rob and Lauri both showed just when I need two extra sets of hands for bleeding the dual disc brakes (each manning a bleed screw and turning them "open" and "close" as needed.

Clutch in and appears to work great. 

Engine starts but only runs strong on one cylinder.  Paul came by and helped diagnose it but all we've done is narrow the problem and eliminate possibilities.  It is not spark (switched leads from coil and plugs and still only one side; both plugs fire at same time so this was an easy test).

It is not compression.  Easily pumps up to over 150 lbs with three kicks.

Carb.  Checked float levels the proper way.  We carefully lowered the full float bowls off each carb.  Nice and full but most important, the same.

My next plan is to go through the left carb.  It is brand new.  I have read online that you should always thoroughly clean even a brand new carb, and I did not.  These have been messed with by the seller who put in different jets.  I will have to have a look and see if they left a pair of forceps  in there.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2014, 06:06:10 PM »
Did you bench sync the carbs? 

I'm probably not the only one with a carb sync tool, but I just picked one up this winter and would be happy to get a little time in on it as my motor is not back together yet.  Let me know if you want a hand with that.

Bike's looking really good btw.

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Re: Smithers XS650 Bobber
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2014, 08:39:22 AM »
   You know you could just call me..CHEERS.