Prince George Vintage Motorcycle Club
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kaziff on March 02, 2011, 07:47:31 AM
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The club has lost it's long time meeting venue with the Legion being closed on Tuesdays and it's near future in doubt. The last couple of meetings have been held upstairs at Shooters Pub on Brunswick street. There has been some opposition to using this venue due to various reasons.
Ron has made arrangements with the owner of the Treasure Cove Casino to have free usage of the show lounge area at the casino for the monthly meetings, he has been told there will be full bar and kitchen service for any who are interested.
The use of the casino may be cause for some members to have either a moral or other reason to discontinue attending club meetings.
If this is a concern for you, let me know as there are other venues we could explore.
Call 250-640-0364
Kaziff
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That sounds good to me.
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Kaziff doesn't intend this thread to become a public poll on venues, but for the record, I'd as soon stay where we are; Shooter's seems to be accomodating our needs (except for adiosing the pool table) as best they are able, and just as they said they would. No harm in keeping an eye open for an ideal venue for our purposes, but I'd rather park my motorcycle in front of Shooters than at the Casino, when that time comes. We've already gotten a sense how they feel about motorcycles, and our club, at the Casino.
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Although not a poll I agree with Rusty and am quite content with Shooters and it would be nicer if the pool table went.
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HEH..HEH... ;D although NOT a Poll....I will also not express my Public Opinion on the Meeting Location....
Always Prepared for DEATH parking and walking Downtown after Dark in Canada's #1 City.....Liked the Parking Lot at the Legion...having the window to look outside and see that No "YOUNG" was messing with my Ride..
At shooters at least you can keep your Hat on...Can't see your Bike
Not feeling the Lack of Love from the Casino...Parking lot there seems more secure to me than 6AVE....Although I did miss the show last summer when my Yamaha wouldn't Start.... ;D
Gonna Miss the Legion ....
(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss263/ironpan65/6620Motorcycle20with20Machine20Gun20is20Awesome.jpg).
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Since this continues not to be a poll, I will be brief.
I also think Shooters is okay for now, provided the pool table is removed (as indicated by Donovan).
I would always have the concern that the casino may need their show room on a Tuesday night and we would have to move our meetings a couple of times a year.
Shep
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Hmm; the 'not-a-poll' extreme-casual poll seems to be running at about even... in terms of absolute 'security', I'm sure the casino parking lot is miles ahead - after all, it was 'security' that had so much input into our display last year. They seemed to take a real interest in what goes on in their area of influence.
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As a casual bystander, it seems that I read of a club meeting place around Dogwood street that has a high fence and plenty of security. Perhaps they would sublet once a month. There is probably a variety of refreshment available as well. ;D
Or maybe not.
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Rusty I think you might be right about the security issue. I am not sure how much of an issue it will be at the Shooters location but it would be nice to know that there are people watching out for any thing untoward that might be occurring in there vicinity. If security will be an issue then the Casino would be the better place to meet. I guess we could give it a try and see how it works out and if we feel welcome there.
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As for Dogwood we could all get our pictures taken for free by the rcmp. Have a standing invite and have never been. Soon as you go there you are an "associate" open to all sorts of extra hassle by the man. I would still go to meetings at the casino, however I'm not in favor of their brand of poison. Place ruins more lives than any bar. So I guess what I'm getting at is a preference for the lesser of 2 evils. Also at the casino we would have a huge space too ourselves--I like other people and background noise. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Seriously though (Dogwood was weak attempt at humour), it would seem from the previous comments that Shooters tends to be the most popular, with reserves about security. Having worked at the Telus/B C Tel building on the other corner for over thirty years and having left the bike parked out front a lot. Nobody ever bothered it, or the others there.
Also for the months that the bikes would be ridden, keep in mind that it is daylight until late at evening. By which time you should be either home in bed or have a designated driver. :) The rest of the time if the weather is like this, you will be using dog sleds. And who messes with a hungry Husky??
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I had the impression most responses would indicate that we stay at Shooters if possible (over the Casino). Security of the bikes being the only real issue.
I have asked Ron to discuss this with Geordie, possibly we could use the back conference room at Shooters, no pool table and the room looks
directly over the rear parking lot. not sure if this is a paid lot after hours or not, any comments?
kaziff
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I'd prefer Shooters. I echo Fast1's comments about the casino. That place is the root of much evil. Legalized gambling is the government's way of taxing the poor and desparate. They willingly allow middle class people to blow thousands of dollars which they cannot afford. Of course, taxing booze is the same, but its my preferred way of dealing with my poor life and desparation. I guess I could take up gambling.
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Here's my 2? in the not poll. The friggin' snow can friggin' well frig off.
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Sounds good to me!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHb1IS3amIw
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Rite on Fritz you hit it right on the head of thee nail about Shooters Pub. I have been waiting to see if any one had any BALLS that would say their peace and see thee light i thought i was a lone. I won't go there for many reasons. I am not a member any more and that is one of thee biggest reasons from what u have stated. I herd thee club wanted to try and build up thee membership. Where are you going to seat them? Is that right no voting a little dictatorship. You are right again the PRINCE GEORGE VINTAGE MOTORCYCLE CLUB deserves better . But what do i know? Oh well. HAPPY NEW YEARS ALL
The British Bulldog
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Casino is out for me to come back to thee club. What does it do for this town board up stores. I still have my bikes and you need stores to buy parts etc. And do i need to say more? But what do i know?
The British Bulldog
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I don't know why everybody keeps missing the obvious answer-Steamers has been very accomodating for movie nights and you can see the bikes as well as see and hear everyone.
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Good to hear your voice fast1 steamers has a lot of good points going for it. I heard complaints about thee food. If thee owner is a business man he will want to change that easy as one two three i would tell him. I am sure a lot of places would love to have a awesome group of people around like thee PRINCE GEORGE VINTAGE MOTORCYCLE CLUB. Even though i am not there in my heart and eyes thee people in thee club are the best and nobody can tell me different.
The British Bulldog
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I thought the answer was rather obvious--- Steamers pub has been very gracious in hosting us on movie night, you can see the parking lot from the window, hear and see everyone, little out of the downtown so fewer "undesirables" and they could use the business- let's support them before they go the way of the Legion. Shooters has a lot of young people all the time and don't seem to be hurting. Just my opinion. Remember though that opinions are like assholes- everybody has one and most of them stink!
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The last time this was discussed AND voted on was several months ago. The issue again came up as it had at virtually every meeting before. The motion was passed to not entertain anymore motions about this until ... I forget the date but it is in the future.
Here is the problem. We cannot get a unanimous consent. Those not in favour say they will not attend if they don't get their way. Every time there is a suggestion for a new venue, somebody does not like it. Right now we have Fast 1, Bulldog (nonmember), Fritz and who knows who else who are not coming. Move to someplace else, and others won't come.
If you want to do something constructive, why don't you suggest alternatives AND see if you can find unanimity. Unanimity is the key. Just complaining about the status quo is precisely why we voted to quit discussing venues at the meetings.
Despite passing a motion, I am sure this issue could be tabled ahead of schedule if there were a motion passed to hear such motion. However, I would not even vote for a motion to table a motion on the venue change unless I was persuaded that there was a realistic chance of a unanimous vote (or strong majority). If you guys want to build up a consensus for a new venue, and present that at a meeting as reason why we should entertain the vote, I would support that. I will not support a motion that is just a rant about our current venue.
Do the leg work. Answer this posting with positive suggestions. Listen to those who disagree with you. Try to find the common themes. Consensus building may start with identifying the problem, but dwelling on the problem does not build consensus.
With that in mind I will start by saying that I want to stay at a bar. I don't want to go to a restaurant. My simple reason is I do not feel guilty purchasing only a beer. When I am out on my bike, I prefer the rebel edge of a bar to the milquetoast ambiance of a restaurant. If I were to be specific, I agree with Fast 1 about Steamers. Not much room, but Darrel treats us right.
Despite the above, I will attend wherever we meet (except the Cassino). I go to the meetings to hang with my buddies and talk about motorcycles. We could do that in a church basement for all I care, but they probably would not approve of my beer.
Peace & Grease and lets have a civilized dialogue. Dennis.
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I would give the cassino the thumbs down for the reasons stated by others. As well, I feel the smaller businesses should get our attention. I'm with Dennis on the choice of bar over restaurant.
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The people who run the upstairs at the Caribou where the Christmas party was held were favourable to us holding meetings there--kids can come and we can see the bikes?? Just throwing it out there as another alternative. Maybe a few more likely places are out there- suggestions please. Like Dennis said positive input, not just belly aching. God I wish thee damn Legion would open on Tues---
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Fast 1. You are on the right track. Lets get some positive suggestions. In the early stages lets keep our negatives to ourselves until we see a trend developing. In my business, we call this brainstorming. Create a whole bunch of options before parring them down.
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Let's see if I understand this. brainstorming.....get the brain working, options....places to meet together, paring down.....bring out the KNIVES now. OH,OH. ;D
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Maybe start with some desired parametres. What is important for a good venue? Some ideas I have heard (not in order of priority) are:
-free
-sufficient room and amenities like tables and chairs
-parking
-consistency and reliability ie. will the venue always be available to us on our Tuesday
-location
-food and beverage
-psychology, do we feel welcomed and invited or a burden
Please add whatever you think is important.
Dennis
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I like bars because the servers are usually cute girls.
Hey, I'm brainstorming here.
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how many licensed establishments in PG will have enough room to seat 40 members (possible summer number) in such a manner as to not cause problems with their regular clientelle? where we could conduct a meeting without being interupted.
I am not overly familiar with the bars enough to answer this question. any takers?
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Steamers is Great. Food is great. Service is great. Server is usually great. But beer selection in my opinion is not very good . Perhaps this could be solved by taking to the proprietor. Plus we get to view movies EVERY tues without complaint. Most of the members I see at movie nights are the same Core group who Ride on tuesdays during the Season . We don't seem to care where we go, as long as we're BS' in and ridin' together. 8) So whats wrong with THAT.
MAC
( damn solvent fumes!!)
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I agree with Steamers. The food is good and I don't drink beer so it does that does not influence me. They have been good to us for our movie nights and that is a plus. As far as a restaurant they expect you to buy a meal and sometimes I just want a drink of some alcoholic kind and Streamers fills that role. As far as a consensus from the club I don' think it will happen as I describe our club to my wife is like herding cats and that is the way I like it.
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Ya know I been thinking, dangerous I know, but everyone seemed happy at the Legion on Tuesday nights. Do you think maybe a change of meeting night and back to the Legion might be in order or is that just a bit too revolutionary?
Terry
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I would go along with that idea 100% Terry i might join thee club again if we went back to thee Legion or some other place. I was hoping someone would suggest changing thee day a long time ago and you are thee man that did. Now please make it work. Thank you Terry.
The British Bulldog
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I'm told the Legion's policy on guests (we were almost all guests) has reverted to the original members-only policy, so it seems unlikely we can go home again, even if we adjusted out schedule to fit theirs - discussion of which seemed always to cause a fuss. Though it means nothing to me, a lot of people are set on Tuesdays. There is also some considerable uncertainty in just how much longer the Legion will be continuing in the current location, and this sort of uncertainty is not helpful in fostering plans of this sort.
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Mr.Bucket do you have that written in stone about the Legion?
The Briitsh Bulldog
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Er, no, I haven't actually gone to the Legion and asked about this... I think Guy told us, but I imagine somebody else told him - I don't expect he called the Legion himself to check it out.
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Thanks Russ for thee reply.
The British Bulldog
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I think we should have our meetings at whatever strip club happens to be open. I'll even show up to a meeting to say so.
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Drag strip ???
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The old National is now called Alibis and has strippers-- maybe a scouting mission is in order?? Has anyone ever told Bulldog there is only one "e" in the????? Wanted to go to movie nite but now I have to go halfway to Fort Ware and fix a pick-up in the bush. in the cold. in the dark. Then drive back. Boo-yaa!!
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fast1 you are not old enough to remember the 2 ee
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I am from Canada, not England. only need one e. I type like a turtle, so no extra key punching for me. So there I am, Lying on the ground at midnite, pounding wheel studs in from behind cause I could not get the hub off and the fella holding the brake caliper out of the way drops fifteen pounds of rough cast iron on my head, making an instant lump and gash. Like I don't have enuff scars already. Hour down the road the tire goes flat. Got home at 8:00 a.m.- just in time to drive kids. Today's paper say's the Legion will close at the end of April without help. Don't know if we can help but I thought I'd bring it up. Could damn near ride a bike today!!!!!!