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Title: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 27, 2018, 11:44:34 AM
I want to set out a plan to get my bike license as soon as I can. My dad's bike is awesome but I think it's too custom (and probably too fast) to learn on and test on. So I have this 1985 Honda shadow 500 I bought off my good friends at a-star automotive recyclers with clean papers for $100. problem is, it doesn't charge. I put a regulator in it but to no avail. So question #1, does anyone have parts for this? #2 : can I assume the stator is toast? or could there be something else going on?
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 27, 2018, 01:55:14 PM
P.S after I'm all licensed up and riding my big boy bike, this one will be my wife's. so I plan on making it much prettier than it currently sits.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: Hans on August 28, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
So, when you do your tests, you need to do them on a motorcycle that it 110% legal.  All the controls and signals have to work.  Otherwise they take your money and send you home.

Does the bike run in with a charged battery?  If so, you can see if the stator is producing while it is running at the input block of the rectifier with a multimeter.  Electrical can be a bugger to track down. 
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 29, 2018, 06:12:21 AM
yes, if I charge the battery it runs. I've taken it down the street and everything else seems to be in working order. I don't have a key for it so I had to hot wire it but I'll put a new ignition in it once I get it charging.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: Hans on August 29, 2018, 08:28:26 AM
ok, definitely the next step is to see if the stator is producing any current.  On your rectifier, you should have blocks of 4 coloured wires and a block of 3 yellow wires.  The input to the block of 3 yellow wires is from the stator.  Use the AC voltage function of a multimeter and check each of those 3 wires from the stator against a good ground when the engine is running.  You should see about 50 volts or better.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 29, 2018, 09:52:17 AM
thanks Hans, I'll give that a test when I get a chance. This damn working for a living shit gets in the way of my projects. lol
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 30, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
so yesterday I went to test the stator. charged a battery, went out hooked it up, turn on the fuel and gas pours out onto the ground. A quick look and I see the fuel line coming off the tank is rotten. so I pull the tank. At this point I started smoking pot. Then I pulled out he factory air box and rearranged a bunch of wiring and started planing my cosmetic surgery on the old girl. Next thing you know I'm hammering in the side of my fuel tank and still haven't fixed the fuel line or tested the stator.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 30, 2018, 03:13:56 PM
finished dishing my tank. Some people say you shouldn't work while high, but it's hard to argue with how cool this looks. I'm thinking seafoam green with the "scalloped" area pearl white.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 30, 2018, 05:04:10 PM
tomorrow I'll do my body filler work and get rid of the hammer marks
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 31, 2018, 08:26:19 AM
put a coat of 3m platinum plus lightweight body filler on this morning. Using a good quality product costs a little more but saves time in labour and holds up a lot better. don't use cheap bondo, you'll regret it.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 31, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
Being a car guy, I'm not 100% sure what you would call the style I'm going for, maybe retro-bob? all I know is that my inspiration comes from this '56 corvette. I want it to look as close to this as a bike can.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: Dennis on August 31, 2018, 11:46:01 AM
Careful Kris.  This is how a bad custom bike habit starts.  First a little this, then a little that.

Then you have a garage full of bikes in various states of assembly/disassembly/modify and a never ending list of parts bought on Ebay waiting for delivery.  If you order parts while high, you may end up with duplicates or stuff that you thought were cool at the time.   I have two extra sets of CB350 fork ears.  I ordered three.  End then there are the forward controls for my ironhead Sportster ... I always ride with mid controls.  I don't even remember what I was thinking when I bought them.

Peace & Grease, Dennis
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 31, 2018, 12:01:04 PM
well the way I roll is to build or source everything as close to free as possible. that didn't stop me from accumulating an acre of cars though. lol however it does keep me from online shopping whilst high. in fact, I've never purchased anything online, I'm old school. I like to hold something in my hand before I exchange cash for it. So far, this bike has cost me $100. I plan on keep it under $500 for the entire build. the only things I should have to buy new are a battery and tires, and possibly a stator.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 31, 2018, 12:33:53 PM
side note: having a fully stocked body shop in my back yard really helps keep my build costs down. I don't factor the price of paint or materials into my personal projects because I just chalk it up to business overhead.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on August 31, 2018, 01:07:52 PM
back when I first got this bike I chopped about 3 inches (and an ugly tail light) out of my rear fender. now I'm thinking of frenching a tail light into it and shortening the seat. something reminiscent of the corvette
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 01, 2018, 06:40:53 PM
here's how the Honda is shaping up so far. I'm still not happy with the seat but I'll sort that out. any thoughts or suggestions for a first timer?
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 01, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
I have a suspension question. I want to lower the rear of my bike. can I just relocate the top mount to a higher point on the frame to achieve my drop or will this adversely effect my handling/braking?
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 04, 2018, 04:36:56 PM
tail light install going well. This emulates the Corvette pretty well
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 04, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
I got a little creative when finding an appropriate piece of tubing. since the fender is plastic I can't just use the steel tubing I have an abundance of. Ended up using a cup. Don't tell my wife. lol. The cup worked great because not only did it have the right length and inner diameter, but it also had a slight taper which looks great.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 05, 2018, 12:20:46 PM
fender is all glued and shaping up nicely. I have been using Fusors 142 plastic epoxy my entire career and it's never let me down. if you need to glue any type of plastic this is the only way to go.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 09, 2018, 08:58:23 AM
not finished yet but I had to throw the tins on to see how she looks. I'm very pleased with myself, the colour is very eye catching and I only got one run and a tiny bit of bleed through where my masking lifted. (I'm not a painter, I'm a body man who bought a spray guy). Now I take it back apart to do the finishing work. hope to have it running Monday. interstate battery was closed yesterday
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 10, 2018, 01:18:10 PM
just picked up the battery from interstate. good guys there, they had the battery I needed on the shelf and it came to $68 after taxes and core compared to the $120 that princess auto wanted. I will go back for my battery needs in the future
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: Dennis on September 11, 2018, 10:13:33 AM
I previously responded about local shops.  Interstate is an exception.  The preferred go to battery supplier used to be Battery Direct (they've changed their name now) on 1st Ave.  They have been trumped by the good stock, good quality and good prices of Interstate.

For anything universal I prefer Chieftain Auto.  True journeyman parts guys.

Peace & Parts, Dennis
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 15, 2018, 05:00:42 PM
does anyone know if signal placement makes a difference legally? I like them further back on the fender but should they be closer to the tail?
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 16, 2018, 05:33:49 PM
when I think 50's i think of these old coke ads. so when i decided to do a 50's theme build i figured a glass coke bottle seemed appropriate.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: Hans on September 16, 2018, 08:58:18 PM
rules say turn signals need to be a minimum of 11 inches apart.... 

With a shorty rear fender, you aren't legit anyway.  Fender has to extend past the back of the tire. Stupid rules wrecking our fun..
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 17, 2018, 08:15:53 AM
well fuuuuuuu k. I didnt know that about the fender. I looked for rules on icbcs website and came up empty maybe I can extend the fender with the plate bracket to get it back to legal length. thanks for the info Hans
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 17, 2018, 08:56:19 AM
I measured the distance that my signals would be apart and its 9 inches. I think most guys add 2 or 3 inches when eyeballing a measurement so as long as I don't get a woman doing the inspect it should be ok right? lmao
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 18, 2018, 09:54:05 PM
sometimes I do things just to see if I can. Such is the case with my grips. Someone had peeled the rubber off before the bike got into my hands. Now sure, I could just buy new grips, in white for pretty cheap but where's the fun in that? So I set to recovering the grips in the white vinyl from my first seat cover attempt.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 18, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
I folded the edges over to give myself clean edges as well as added strength.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 18, 2018, 10:00:54 PM
then it's just a matter of stitching the ends together and stretching it over the grip.
Title: Re: my learner bike
Post by: KrisCarr on September 18, 2018, 10:02:01 PM
not too shabby if I do say so myself