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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dennis on June 23, 2015, 03:04:47 PM

Title: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Dennis on June 23, 2015, 03:04:47 PM
During my daily ritual of avoiding work in the afternoon by scrolling through Kijiji, I see the following ad from Summit Power Sports for the Cleveland Cycle Works "Heist."  It says the engine has "no overhead cams."

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-street-cruisers-choppers/prince-george/2015-cleveland-cycle-works-heist-at-summit-power-tools/1082302652

It is cut and pasted from Cleveland's Website

http://www.clevelandcyclewerks.com/new-page/

I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that engine is a single overhead cam model.  I felt sure enough to email Cleveland and tell them.  If they turn out to have a push rod OHV engine, I'll buy one (the engine that is).

Peace & Petty Particulars, Dennis
Title: Re: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Dennis on June 23, 2015, 04:28:24 PM
I'm not actually sure how to eat Humble Pie, but I'm sure confessing to the brethren is a start.  I got this email back,

Hello Dennis, our 250cc in the USA and Canada currently has a 2 valve pushrod motor.

We have 2 land speed records with this motor, it is a solid little performer. 

Thanks for the support, and thanks for looking out for us, cheers!


So then I did some more research.  Here is a diagram for an article about them.

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd433/smith5304/CG125_zpszz2bxxx4.jpg) (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/smith5304/media/CG125_zpszz2bxxx4.jpg.html)

Piece of Humble Pie, Dennis
Title: Re: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Hans on June 23, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
I think DanielG had one of those.  He pretty much destroys it and the dealer in one of his blogs.....
Title: Re: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Dennis on June 23, 2015, 09:39:51 PM
I think DanielG had one of those.  He pretty much destroys it and the dealer in one of his blogs.....

I've read that, and heard his oral version.  Sounds like a complete disaster for him, and definitely turned me off.  I remain optimistic that the company's success (its grown a lot since I first started following them) is a sign that they are improving quality control.

When they started out they were using a Lifan 250cc.  I don't recall if their first models were using an overhead cam version and/or if this current push rod OHV is something they have had made since.  It would be a lot more appealing to North American buyers if they could get a 500cc push rod single made along the same lines.

Peace & Grease, Dennis
Title: Re: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Hans on June 23, 2015, 10:37:30 PM
Engines are still Honda based CG style engines. OHV with pushrods.
Title: Re: I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Post by: Dennis on June 24, 2015, 03:10:36 PM
Summit went further to make me grovel.  Steve took the rocker box off and sent me the photo.

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd433/smith5304/push%20rod%20250cc_zpswyztdlzs.jpg) (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/smith5304/media/push%20rod%20250cc_zpswyztdlzs.jpg.html)

I will take a little solace with his comment, "It was very tough for me to find a break down on the motor so I just took the valve cover off."

Peace & Grease, Dennis